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LargoW



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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Ven 10 Oct - 4:17

I bought a pack of 250 (?) off ebay from China. They cost around 10€ a pack. I glued them on big GW flight bases which had broken flight stand holes I had laying around.

Thanks for the compliments!
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Ven 10 Oct - 6:26

LargoW a écrit:
I bought a pack of 250 (?) off ebay from China.  They cost around 10€ a pack. I glued them on big GW flight bases which had broken flight stand holes I had laying around.

Thanks for the compliments!

I love your work. Your "Vietnam-like" scheme looks awesome ! I take this post to ask if you know someone who would sell leman russ executioner (or just the turrets).

Thx in advance !
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Ven 10 Oct - 7:42

Cette liste thématique est de toute beauté, bravo!

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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 14 Oct - 12:21

Urg, my motivation is slowly degrading. I am a bit dissapointed by the miniatures for my Stormtroopers. The cast is of good quality, I like the design idea, but the miniatures tend to have details I can't make any sense of. All in all they are not my cup of tea. Well, I will just paint them and get on with it. Have some photos:






Note that this was a prototype:



On top of the issues with the Stormtroopers, my VTOLs broke during the molding process because the Shapeways material somehow reacted to the mold. this destroyed the master AND the mold Sad
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 14 Oct - 12:32

Very nice effect on the windshields ! I'll keep the model in mind when I do mine.
Sorry to hear about your mold. Was it that the VTOL sticked to the mold, or that the mold didn't cure ?
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 14 Oct - 12:39

LargoW a écrit:
Urg, my motivation is slowly degrading. I am a bit dissapointed by the miniatures for my Stormtroopers. The cast is of good quality, I like the design idea, but the miniatures tend to have details I can't make any sense of. All in all they are not my cup of tea. Well, I will just paint them and get on with it.

Yep, too much details kill details, i figure what you mean.

Anyway go on, your minis are awesomes! cheers
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 14 Oct - 12:41

It interacted with the mold. I use high pressure, high temperature molding. Shapeways has recently changed the material for FUD. The "new" FUD is less brittle, so it does not break so easily, but it can only withstand temperatures of up to 80 degree Celsius. The molding process includes temperatures slightly above 100 degree. Because the change was NOT announced via public message, but only on the "material details" page, I did not recognize. Now I have to go the Bronze Metal route, introducing higher costs but smoother finish. We will see what the future will bring.
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 21 Oct - 8:45

Due to the announced pressure problems, the casts look like this.


I threw the mold and the master model into the waste bin and I am currently redesigning my model from scratch, with the now learned lessions.
Previous:

Now:


Previous:

Now:


Current Status


But on the bright side, the shrimps are just fine Smile



The old Valks, the one-piece models, are now beeing painted, too.

I have also finished the Angel Barracks infantry. Just needs basing.




Oh and I quickly finished the Thunderbolts yesterday. They are really easy to paint.
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 21 Oct - 10:12

Hello,

It seems to me you are trying to get printed models into vulcanisation process to get a rubber or silicone mould ?
Usually 170-180°C + 140 Bar pressure....

Well, I have had my share of experience on that matter. That I can share with you.

The materials used by shapeways won't resist the vulcanisation process.
To convert a Shapeways prototype (usually in "Frosted Ultra Detail" plastic material) I have a process that works very well.

First, I convert the miniature in a resin counterpart.
I found out tha PU resins (some of them, not all), don't melt, break of deform during the vulcanisation process.
It just becomes brittle. So the resin model breaks when you get it out of the mold, but the mold is a perfect reproduction.

I can give you the reference of the resin I use to do this.
I will be testing other resin résistances in the near future, to see how they behave in the vulcanisation process...

In the next two weeks, I have a miniature project that I will be doing (based of "frosted ultra detail" from Shapeways), if you want, I could document the whole process...
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 21 Oct - 11:38

Yes you are correct. Its around 100°C and high pressure. Resin COULD work but I think I will go the easier route and just use bronze. The quality of the print will be better too. Its just not that cheap Smile
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 21 Oct - 12:53

LargoW a écrit:
Yes you are correct. Its around 100°C and high pressure. Resin COULD work but I think I will go the easier route and just use bronze. The quality of the print will be better too. Its just not that cheap Smile
It will work with bronze, of course.
Resin DOES work... I do it... Smile

But look at the spec différences between Raw Bronze printing and Ultra Frosted Detail :

https://www.shapeways.com/materials/bronze?li=nav

https://www.shapeways.com/materials/frosted-detail-plastic?li=nav

For the sake of numbers :
- With Raw Bronze, engraving has to be a minimal 0,3mm
- with Frosted Ultra Detail : 0,1mm !

And this is the same for all other specs.

There is a huge difference in finesse of détails. Frosted Ultra Detail seems far better.
At Epic scale, it could mean a lot couldn't it ?

Anyway !
Whatever you choose I'll be interested by the result !
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 21 Oct - 13:00

Yes, you are right on that part. But, this also means very small parts whcih probably won't stand the molding process. Especially as .3mm should also do the trick. We will see, I am also eager to test polished bronze as well.
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 21 Oct - 13:05

LargoW a écrit:
Yes, you are right on that part. But, this also means very small parts whcih probably won't stand the molding process. Especially as .3mm should also do the trick. We will see, I am also eager to test polished bronze as well.

In the next weeks, I will produce a few miniatures printed with ultra detail, cast in a resin counterpart, then molded at 170°C + 140bar pressure.
I'll show you that you can get aaaaaall the detail... and that they can stand the molding process Wink

Well, if your models don't necessitate that much details, bronze would probably do the trick !
Can you say what difference in price there is between a bronze and frosted ultra detail model ?

Polished bronze ?
Why not.
I just don't know what Raw Bronze look like... Smile
Maybe it's too grainy and polished bronze will be better. (but with even less détails)
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 21 Oct - 13:20

Yes, that is also what I fear. Bronze is more expensive, raw bronze is 10$ flat plus 16$ per cm³, polished bronze is 20$ flat plus 18$ per cm³, FUD is 5$ flat plus 3,4$ per cm³. Raw bronze is around 3 times and polished is around 4 times the price of FUD.

I think I will look into this when I have finished my 3D model. I am also interested in your stuff as well.
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 21 Oct - 14:57

I'll show you what I do in the next few weeks.
(these are mainly Blood Bowl trophies for tournaments)

Good luck with your prints Smile
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Sam 25 Oct - 21:39

Here's an update from the desk Smile



Thunderbolts




WIP


Heres an update on the 3D stuff.





I already have finished the sensor array at the front. When I upload the bloody thing to Shapeways it is destroyed on multiple occasions. Their are holes all over the model, some geometries just get lost... It is getting really on my nerves. On top of it, the VTOL above costs a fortune in Bronze.
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Jeu 30 Oct - 10:07

I have finished the work on the first VTOL and started work on the second one. Feedback welcome!

Parts:


I also started work on the reworked weapons sprue. Which rocket pod version do you like more? The one with the small tips or the one with the holes? Size can be adjusted, of course.

I also started work on the Heavy Bolter in the front of the "Hunter Class" VTOL. This could also be used on other models.
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Jeu 30 Oct - 10:12

Feedback...

Great !!! bounce
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Jeu 30 Oct - 10:27

Rocket pod: hole version is better

When you print on shapeway, do you use frosted détail or ultra frosted détail?

Great stuff
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Jeu 30 Oct - 10:34

Thanks! I used Frosted Ultra Detail in the past but I will switch to Frosted Detail as it is more close to the specs of Raw Bronze which I want to use in the end. Very Happy
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Jeu 30 Oct - 10:52

I prefer "The one with the small tips"...
Les goûts et les couleurs...  Wink
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mer 5 Nov - 12:45

I did some work on the 3D models. They currently look like this:



I also started work on an AMTL on Saturday. They are nearly finished as I did some work on terrain yesterday. I hop to finish them today, would be my fastest army ever Very Happy


The mentioned terrain:


More pictures on my blog, as always.
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mer 5 Nov - 12:50

Hello,
It's just awesome! Shocked
3D models are incredible! affraid
Mag'
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mer 5 Nov - 12:55

Your 3d job is still amazing, congrats!

Looking forward the terrain to be done Smile
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MessageSujet: Re: LargoW Painting Gallery   Mar 4 Aoû - 13:09

I am sorry for the lack of updates here. I was pretty busy in the beginning of the year due to us moving house and blablabla excuses excuses blabla.

The Titans have been painted already, I have started and stopped building a knights army, the Hydras and the Manticores above are already done, as well are the Sentinels and the Baneblades. I have furthermore finished 6 Gorgon Siege transporters and I am currently working on two more Infantry companies, a Vulture formation, another Valkyrie with Stormtroopers formation and even more Warhounds for the Legio (have finished two so far, another three in the works).
I have successfully build a wargaming table which was still in the works last year.

But today I have returned. With pictures from YET ANOTHER HOBBY PROJECT (because you cant have enough):






Retro-Ultramarines! Yay for hazard stripes! Very Happy

Also, have some pictures of newly sculpted Catachan dudes.
Tank Crew with Mortar fitting into Salamander Command Tanks to upgrade them to Griffons

Veterans in Ghillie Suits and Snipers

Ogryns


I shall behave a bit more and try to post more regulary. Painted pictures of these in sometime in the future. IF I can stop painting Ultramarines and start painting Guard again.
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