[trad']Carte du chaos

Téléchargement des cartes du chaos a écrit:

Bonjour,

Voici les 4 fichiers regroupant les différentes cartes du chaos traduit dans ce topic :

• fichier 1 (4,6Mo)
  
  
• fichier 2 (4,6Mo)
  
  
• fichier 3 (4,6Mo)
  
  
• fichier 4 : cartes spéciales (2,7Mo)
  
  
• Le fichier complet (16Mo !!)
  

Bonsoir,

J'ai commencé la traduction et la mise en forme des cartes du chaos.

Je veux bien avis et critiques sur la forme, et surtout sur le fond : problème de traduction, problème de cohérance, de compréhension etc etc ...


Le pdf avec les 16 premières cartes en cliquant ici (il fait plus de 4Mo)[quote]

L'idéal serait de mettre le texte en anglais et ta trad en dessous.

Sinon, très jolie, esthétiquement parlant.

TooT

voilà les textes des originaux :

BEAKED a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn

BEWEAPONED EXTREMITIES a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

BLOOD RAGE a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, at the end of the Close Combat segment
Effect: The models in the detachment may move up to 10 cm and make a second set of Close Combat attacks.

BREATHES FIRE a écrit:

Play: On one of your models, just before it attacks in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: The model attacks one opponent with its fiery breath before the combat is resolved. The target is automatically hit at -1 TSM.

BRIGHTLY PATTERNED SKIN a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments in the Combat phase.
Effect: The models in the unit become so dazzling that any ranged attacks on them this turn suffer a -1 To-Hit penalty.

BURNING BODY a écrit:

Play: On one of your models that is in a wood or
building, at any time.
Effect: The model's burning body starts a fire.
Roll a D6 in the End Phase of each turn:
1 Fire goes out
2-3 Fire carries on
4-6 All models in the area are destroyed and the area may not be entered for the rest of the game.

CLOVEN HOOVES a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

CRYSTALLINE BODY a écrit:

Play: When one of your models is hit by an energy weapon of any kind.
Effect: The model's crystal body reflects the attack back at the attacker. The attacker is automatically hit, and must make a saving throw to avoid destruction.

DUPLICATION a écrit:

Play: On one of your infantry models in the
orders phase.
Effect: The troop stand creates an exact twin of itself by bringing a destroyed model of exactly the same type back into play. The duplicated model counts as being part of the same unit as the model it was duplicated from, and does count towards that unit's break point.

ENORMOUSLY FAT a écrit:

Play: On one of your models, just before it
attacks in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: The model attacks one opponent with a flying body-slam before the
combat is resolved. The target is hit automatically and must make an armor save.

EYESTALKS a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments in the Combat
Phase.
Effect: All models in the detachment are able to make maximum use of
cover, and double any To-Hit modifiers they receive from cover this turn.

EVIL EYE a écrit:

Play: On one of your models in the Combat
Phase.
Effect: The model may make an Ethereal Psychic attack with a range of 50
cm. It hits on a 4+ with a TSM of -2.

FLAMING SKULL FACE a écrit:

Play: On any enemy detachment that is within 15 cm of one of your models, at any time.
Effect: The unit must test morale immediately with a –1 penalty.

GROWTH a écrit:

Play: On one of your models, in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: The model doubles in size and so doubles its base CAF this turn.

HORNS a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

HORRIBLE STENCH a écrit:

Play: On one of your models, in the Close Combat segment
Effect: All enemy models within 2D6 cm have their base CAF halved (round down).

Génial !

Alors pour les critiques :

• Je verrais ces cartes 2 fois plus petites.
  En partie parce que les cartes originales l'étaient, mais aussi parce que cela permet plus facilement de les poser à côté de l'unité qui en bénéficie.
  
• J'adore la présence du logo EPIC-FR !
  
• Il te faudra trouver un marquage particulier pour les cartes spécifiques à une légion chaotique.
  
• Une simple image sera plus lisible que le mini texte pour le côté générique.
  
• Il en manque !
  
• Tu te sens de continuer avec les cartes Mekano des orks et celles des Tyranides ?
  

Il faut aussi que j'aille relire les textes.

TooT a écrit:

L'idéal serait de mettre le texte en anglais et ta trad en dessous.

Pas d'accord, je préfère avoir une version française ou une version anglaise, un mixte des deux est juste lourd à mon sens.

Ulmo a écrit:

Génial !

merci ^^

Ulmo a écrit:

Je verrais ces cartes 2 fois plus petites.
En partie parce que les cartes originales l'étaient, mais aussi parce que cela permet plus facilement de les poser à côté de l'unité qui en bénéficie.

En fait, je l'ai fait au format carte à jouer, type magic et autre, notamment car cela permet de les imprimer et de les mettre dans des pochettes transparentes.
Mais également car ca permet d'écrire en police 14 et non 8, donc plus lisible.
Le côté "je place à côté de l'unité" pourrait être utile, mais toutes ses cartes ont un côté éphémère (1 tour au plus), je pense qu'il ne se justifie pas.

Cependant, si tout le monde veux des petites cartes, vu que je travaille en image, je peux réduire à volonté.

Ulmo a écrit:

[*]Il te faudra trouver un marquage particulier pour les cartes spécifiques à une légion chaotique.

ouep, j'y reflechi

Ulmo a écrit:

[*]Une simple image sera plus lisible que le mini texte pour le côté générique.

?
je ne comprend pas.

Ah si, maintenant je comprend, tu veux dire une image qui signifierait : "un détachement", "un socle", "un ennemi" etc ... ?
pas sûr que l'on gagnerait en lisibilité.

Ulmo a écrit:

[*]Il en manque !

ca arrive

Ulmo a écrit:

[*]Tu te sens de continuer avec les cartes Mekano des orks et celles des Tyranides ?

joker pour l'instant ^^

Bon, la 2ème page de carte du chaos (toujours dans les 4Mo)


Pour les originaux, ca donne :

HYPNOTIC GAZE a écrit:

Play: On an enemy model in the Close Combat
segment.
Effect: Choose any model within 15 cm that has not attacked yet. You may take over it over and choose what it will attack, within
the restrictions of its orders and the normal rules for making attacks.

INVISIBILITY a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments in the Combat
phase.
Effect: None of the models in the detachment may attack or be attacked
for the rest of the turn. Attacks declared but not yet rolled are lost.

IRON HARD SKIN a écrit:

Play: On one of your models that has just been eliminated.
Effect: The iron hard skin deflected the attack and the model is unharmed

LEVITATION a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments at any time.
Effect: All models in the detachment may make pop-up attacks this turn, as though they were skimmers

LONG LEGS a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, during the
Movement Phase.
Effect: All models in the detachment double their base movement this turn.

LONG SPINES a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close
Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

MACE TAIL a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

MINDLESS a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, at any time.
Effect: All models in the detachment are immune to fear, terror, morale and psychic effects that require a brain.

MULTIPLE ARMS a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close
Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

MAGICALLY RESISTANT a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, at any time.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain a 4+ Psychic Save for the rest
of the turn.

MANIC FIGHTER a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, or any enemy detachment that is within 15 cm of one of your models, during the Orders Phase.
Effect: The unit receives Charge Orders, even if currently on Fall Back
Orders.

OOZES SLIME a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close
Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment increase their saving throw by +1 this
turn. Models that do not normally have an armor save receive a saving throw of 6+.

PLAGUE BEARER a écrit:

Play: On a model that has just lost in Close Combat.
Effect: Your model is eliminated as normal, but the enemy contracts a
horrible disease that infects all models (friend or foe) within 2D6cm this turn. Roll for each infected model in the end phase and on 4+ it dies with no saving throw.

POISONOUS BITE a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

PREHENSILE TAIL a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

PECULIAR SOUNDS a écrit:

Play: On any enemy detachment that is within 15 cm of one of your models, at any time.
Effect: The unit must test morale immediately.

OurZ. a écrit:

En fait, je l'ai fait au format carte à jouer, type magic et autre, notamment car cela permet de les imprimer et de les mettre dans des pochettes transparentes.
Mais également car ca permet d'écrire en police 14 et non 8, donc plus lisible.

OK, ça se défend comme ça.

OurZ. a écrit:

Ulmo a écrit:

[*]Une simple image sera plus lisible que le mini texte pour le côté générique.

?
je ne comprend pas.

Je parle du recto, avec le symbole Chaos et le petit parchemin "Liber bidule". Le texte n'est pas vraiment lisible, je suggérais de supprimer ce parchemin.

En fait je disais juste pas de mettre l'anglais sur la carte. Mais de mettre l'anglais sur le topic et en dessous la trad associé à la carte. Plus facile pour comparer que de devoir sauter du Pdf aux régles.

Mais bon, je disais pour faciliter les remarques quand à la traduction.

TooT

OurZ. a écrit:

Pour les originaux, ca donne :

HYPNOTIC GAZE a écrit:

Play: On an enemy model in the Close Combat
segment.
Effect: Choose any model within 15 cm that has not attacked yet. You may take over it over and choose what it will attack, within
the restrictions of its orders and the normal rules for making attacks.

INVISIBILITY a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments in the Combat
phase.
Effect: None of the models in the detachment may attack or be attacked
for the rest of the turn. Attacks declared but not yet rolled are lost.

IRON HARD SKIN a écrit:

Play: On one of your models that has just been eliminated.
Effect: The iron hard skin deflected the attack and the model is unharmed

LEVITATION a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments at any time.
Effect: All models in the detachment may make pop-up attacks this turn, as though they were skimmers

LONG LEGS a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, during the
Movement Phase.
Effect: All models in the detachment double their base movement this turn.

LONG SPINES a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close
Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

MACE TAIL a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

MINDLESS a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, at any time.
Effect: All models in the detachment are immune to fear, terror, morale and psychic effects that require a brain.

MULTIPLE ARMS a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close
Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

MAGICALLY RESISTANT a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, at any time.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain a 4+ Psychic Save for the rest
of the turn.

MANIC FIGHTER a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, or any enemy detachment that is within 15 cm of one of your models, during the Orders Phase.
Effect: The unit receives Charge Orders, even if currently on Fall Back
Orders.

OOZES SLIME a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close
Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment increase their saving throw by +1 this
turn. Models that do not normally have an armor save receive a saving throw of 6+.

PLAGUE BEARER a écrit:

Play: On a model that has just lost in Close Combat.
Effect: Your model is eliminated as normal, but the enemy contracts a
horrible disease that infects all models (friend or foe) within 2D6cm this turn. Roll for each infected model in the end phase and on 4+ it dies with no saving throw.

POISONOUS BITE a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

PREHENSILE TAIL a écrit:

Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.

PECULIAR SOUNDS a écrit:

Play: On any enemy detachment that is within 15 cm of one of your models, at any time.
Effect: The unit must test morale immediately.

Il y a quelques soucis de traduction sur la page 2:

- Peau de Fer: la cible n'est pas désarmée mais la cible n'est pas touchée (dans le sens, elle ne subit pas le tir)

- Invisibilité: jusqu'à la fin DU tour

Et pour la page 1:

- Corps de Cristal: tu as beaucoup réduit la traduction:
The attacker is automatically hit, and must make a saving throw to avoid destruction.
L'attaquant est automatiquement touché, il doit réussir une sauvegarde ou être détruit


Sinon il y a des fautes d'orthographes que je te laisse trouver

ScREaM a écrit:

- Peau de Fer: la cible n'est pas désarmée mais la cible n'est pas touchée (dans le sens, elle ne subit pas le tir)

ok, la carte devient :

peau de fer a écrit:

Cible : Un de vos socles.
Phase : Après son élimination.
Effet : La peau de fer fait dévier le tir.
Le socle ne subit pas de blessure.

ScREaM a écrit:

- Invisibilité: jusqu'à la fin DU tour

c'est corrigé

ScREaM a écrit:

- Corps de Cristal: tu as beaucoup réduit la traduction:
The attacker is automatically hit, and must make a saving throw to avoid destruction.
L'attaquant est automatiquement touché, il doit réussir une sauvegarde ou être détruit

Ca me paraissait sous-entendu (en même temps, les sous-entendus c'est mal!), j'ai donc corrigé.

J'ai corrigé également corps enflammé qui devient :

corps enflammé a écrit:

Cible : Un de vos socles dans une forêt ou un bâtiment.
Phase :N’importe quand
Effet :
Un feu se déclare.
Lancez 1D6 à la fin de chaque tour :
1 : le feu s’étouffe (ne plus lancez le dé)
2, 3 : le feu grandit.
4, 5, 6 : tous les socles dans la zone sont détruits. La zone est impraticable pour le reste de la partie

Pour les fautes, je viens d'en revoir, mais il n'est pas évident de les voir qu'on on se lit (surtout sur un ordi).

Les versions mis à jour ici : page 1, page 2

bravo ça en jette ! pour la taille il suffit d'aller dans "imprimer" et de cocher la case "2 pages par feuille" pour la réduction non ?

bar gondre, d'a du chobber un rhube récebbent ourz, y rezde une drâce du bicrobe zur "ingroyablement gras"

congratulations

oups, en effet, je suis enrhummé ^^

Bon, je corrigerai cela.

Allez la 3ème page

Et les originaux :

• POWER OF CHAOS
  Play: On one of your models at any time.
  Effect: Draw D6 Chaos Reward Cards at random from the deck and choose one to apply immediately to this model.
  
  
• RAZOR-SHARP FANGS
  Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
  Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.
  
  
• REGENERATION
  Play: On one of your models that has just been eliminated.
  Effect: Turn the model on its side instead of removing it, and roll a D6 in the End Phase:
  1-3 fails to regenerate – remove the model
  4-6 regenerates – place the model upright.
  
  
• RESILIENT
  Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
  Effect: All models in the detachment increase their saving throw by +1 this
  turn. Models that do not normally have an armor save receive a saving
  throw of 6+.
  
  
• ROTTING FLESH
  Play: On any enemy detachment that is within 15 cm of one of your models, at any time.
  Effect: The unit must test morale immediately.
  
  
• SCALY SKIN
  Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
  Effect: All models in the detachment increase their saving throw by +1 this
  turn. Models that do not normally have an armor save receive a saving throw of 6+.
  
  
• SCORPION TAIL
  Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
  Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.
  
  
• SKULL FACE
  Play: On any enemy detachment that is within 15 cm of one of your models, at any time.
  Effect: The unit must test morale immediately.
  
  
• SPITS ACID
  Play: On one of your models, just before it attacks in the Close Combat segment.
  Effect: The model attacks one opponent with its acid spit before the combat is resolved. The target is hit automatically and must make an armor save with a -1 modifier.
  
  
• TELEKINESIS
  Play: On one of your models, in the Close Combat segment.
  Effect: Choose any nontitan model within 25 cm and move it up to 10 cm.
  You may move it as though it were a skimmer, ignoring impassable terrain
  or enemy units. Models that finish in impassable terrain are destroyed.
  
  
• TENTACLES
  Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
  Effect: All models in the detachment gain +1 CAF this turn.
  
  
• TRANSPARENT SKIN
  Play: On any enemy detachment that is within 15 cm of one of your
  models, at any time.
  Effect: The unit must test morale immediately.
  
  
• UNCONTROLLABLE FLATULENCE
  Play: On one of your models, in the Close Combat segment
  Effect: All enemy models within 2D6 cm have their base CAF halved (round down).
  
  
• WARTY SKIN
  Play: On one of your detachments, in the Close Combat segment.
  Effect: All models in the detachment increase their saving throw by +1 this
  turn. Models that do not normally have an armor save receive a saving
  throw of 6+.
  
  
• WINGS
  Play: On one of your detachments at any time.
  Effect: All models in the detachment may move as if they were skimmers this turn, and may make popup attacks.
  
  
• WARP FRENZY
  Play: On one of your models at any time.
  Effect: Draw D6 Chaos Reward Cards at random from the deck and apply
  their effects immediately to this model.

Zoli ! Juste le liber chaotica qui gêne mais c'est chouette.

Petite précision :
Skimmer = antigrav

Mog

Question:
est ce que les cartes presentes dans renegats sont les memes??

A corriger

• inGroyablement gras
  
• skimmer

tartaupoils a écrit:

Question:
est ce que les cartes presentes dans renegats sont les memes??

Je crois bien qu'il y a eu des changements.

• inGroyablement gras
  
• skimmer

=> corrigé

page 1, page 2, page 3

Et la page des cartes spéciales.

bon l'ancien fond ne semble pas faire l'hunanimité :



préférez-vous celui-ci ?

Superbe. Moi je la préfère comme ça.

Mog

Les fonds ont été changés.
En attendant de nouvelles erreurs / fautes / critiques, je vais éditer ma première page, pour faciliter la possibilité de les retrouver dans le forum et son téléchargement.


page 1, page 2, page 3

Et la page des cartes spéciales.

alors si tu pouvais traduire le terme "fall back" en "retraite" et "justifier" le texte plutôt que le "centrer" ce serait encore mieux !
le perfectionniste en moi ...
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