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Red1104

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MessageSujet: Re: Malika's aventures dans la modélisation 3d   Malika's aventures dans la modélisation 3d - Page 5 Icon_minitimeVen 4 Sep - 7:20

Personally I'm no fan of Patreon as I'm no fan of monthly subscription per se. But I see how it can be a way to finance your project.

An alternative which I did for several underground french artist, was to pre-order. They said "We want and will do an album, but we need funds. If we go (50 or 100) pre-ordered, we will be able to do it and will send it to you". Kinda similar of a crowdfunding, but without intermediary.

Both have pros and cons. Up to you.

(For both alternatives, as pointed out by Marell, you will need enough advertisement for you to get known.)

EDIT
Thinking about smth now: If you only want to sculpt and then allow anybody access to the model, a patreon might be better. If you plan to keep the "blueprint" by you, print models and ship them, crowdfunding might be better.
It depends if you plan to release smth virtual (blueprint) or a physical object (miniatures).
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For now I only want to release the STLs. First of all it allows people to print the models themselves, secondly it's a relative 'small investment' (I don't need to arrange/pay for printing, casting, and distribution), and thirdly it could provide me a stable (albeit small) flow of income that could be used to finance other projects. The latter is interesting because even if you want to run a crowdfunder, you'd probably need to spend a couple of hundred euros just to get some samples to show what you're crowdfunding.

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I do own a 3D printer, and I'm a patreon for Forest Dragon, a spanish guy doing very good quality 10 mm warmaster miniatures. The rythm is 1 army per 3 to 4 months, which is quite fast, but the game does not include as many options as the 6 mm Epic. This is good for me, and you may ask him about the way it's going on.

There seems to be no other small scale miniatures on patreon, mainly 28 / 32 mm fantasy and sci-fi.

If you just want to release a few things, Kickstarting seems to me a better idea.
If you feel like delivering every month a small bunch of minis, yes, Patreon could be a good option.
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The idea of a patreon is appealing. But remember it's a monthly subscription. It's a high pressure to design and release each month something new. Especially if you're alone. But if you have plenty of new ideas and think you can handle it, go for it!

Patreon can be a good place to have new ideas and critics, cause you can directly talk with your patrons, make polls, share sketches... All that to a limited number of person that you know want your designs.

BTW, if you want someone to do some resin and fdm test print... I'm available Wink
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I do not own a printer myself, but can purchase from to time stl files, that friends or 3rd party providers print for me.

I prefer the Kickstarter option, as well. The problem of Patreon is that you need a solid line-up to keep people staying on board. Looks more of a strain to me, but obviously your call mate. And those building designs are great!
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Malika a écrit:
For now I only want to release the STLs.


Pity.
I perfectly understand what you say, but it will cut you off from a potential clientele.
( For instance, I don't have 3D printer. And I don't know anybody who does).
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Monarch Doom a écrit:
Malika a écrit:
For now I only want to release the STLs.


Pity.
I perfectly understand what you say, but it will cut you off from a potential clientele.
( For instance, I don't have 3D printer. And I don't know anybody who does).

If I had the resources I'd have them cast in resin. I just don't have the facilities to do that. So normally I design stuff and try to sell my designs to Vanguard Miniatures to print/cast/release. However, I've noticed that a lot of my terrain kits I've done for them aren't being produced/released due to proxy units having a higher priority (which makes sense since those are their main source of income). I still would like to release my terrain stuff, but also get paid a little bit for it so it allows me to finance the production of my pet projects.
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If I had the resources I'd have them cast in resin. I just don't have the facilities to do that. So normally I design stuff and try to sell my designs to Vanguard Miniatures to print/cast/release. However, I've noticed that a lot of my terrain kits I've done for them aren't being produced/released due to proxy units having a higher priority (which makes sense since those are their main source of income). I still would like to release my terrain stuff, but also get paid a little bit for it so it allows me to finance the production of my pet projects.

It's good reasons. ANd in the same time, it does not seem a long-term activity. So maybe not compatible with a patreon.
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Still a little bit too straight to me.

It need more balconies, excrescences, opening to a bridge at first or second floor, landing runway, turrets, big tubes going into the ground...
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Hey Malika!

I just Found out a new french society named Forgelord3d which offers to cast in resin and sell artists creations.

May be you should contact them...

Forgelord3d@gmail.com
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Nice !! As always...
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Even better Smile
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One thing I'm kinda missing in the current 6mm scene is converting. Now that everybody has a home printer, they simply print whatever they want. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against 3D printing...why the hell would I otherwise do 3D design work. But I do miss the whole craft of 6mm converting.

So...I was pondering about making my big armoured gun morphing guys modular. Basically 5 bodies and then 10 different arms.
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With or without tabards?
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28mm, I'd say both are fine.

6mm, I'm afraid the tabard won't really be good: too small to really make a plus; and could overcharge the very small model. So no tabard
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The version without the tabard might be developed later on. In the meantime I've been tweaking the tabard ones. First of all, I've beefed the tabards up a bit, this would allow for easier printing. But then there's the question: shorter or longer tabards?

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Short tabard

The long might make the bottom looks like a whole block (the tabard joining both legs) when the shorter one still let a clear distinction between legs.
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Short tabard looks better! I love the modularity of the latest 3D designs... but maybe because I am one of those few crazy dude converting 6-8mm troopers Razz
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I agree with the short tabards option, or no tabard at all.
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Short tabards as they look more practical. Maybe one with a longer tabard to denote the most senior member of a squad?
Or, tabards as conversion bits? Might be impractical though.

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A quick experiment, been very intrigued by the notion of MicroHulk, a pocket version of Space Hulk, so I started out trying to make some modular 75mm x 75mm tiles...

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In the meantime...

The walls allow for all sorts of bits to be crammed in them:
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So whilst the tiles themselves are pretty set and standard, I have been making a wide array of possible wall setups:
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I'd also like to develop theme based bits...

Library:
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The library kit current consists of 4 wall bits (each containing different stacks of books) and a cogitator bank. I'd probably would like to add some separate piles of books that have been dropped on the ground.

Sickbay:
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This kit currently consists of a med-bed, cogitator bank, and locker. I'd like to add another wall panel with a surgical servo arm mounted on it, and maybe another bed variant that has some sort of MRI scan device on it. I'm still in doubt whether I should do the bodies of the patients separately or as part of the bed.
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